The 3,500 Calorie per Pound Rule Is Wrong

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  • I think this is the first video of Dr. Greger that is only partially correct. Reducing the calories by 500/day to lose a pound a week is not a stagnant thing as this video is trying to say it is. All of the calorie diets I know of include the fact that you have to figure you required calories needed and subtract the 500 calories from that total. They also tell you that you must adjust the original total to reflect weight loss. This video totally ignores this fact. First poor video of his I've seen so far.

  • I fail to understand the goal of this video. Even if the weight loss is lower because of less body /energy expenditure, is it still 3500 cal to lose a lbs so it will just take more time?

  • I use that stat, which I came up with myself just looking at the calories in a lb of butter, for people that think they lose 10 lbs in 3 days. It's obviously just a change in their water weight, or mostly. Weight loss gets harder the closer a person approaches bmi normal. I know that first hand.
    Diets do work if we stick with them. Best I've found is to remove all sugar and eat mostly whole foods. Stop drinking calories, and eat 3 meals a day, no snacks. I lost 60 lbs and have kept it off so far at 68 years old. Moderate exercise of walking and once a week calisthenics and light weights. All of it is pretty fun, and I hardly ever feel hungry. I just got used to eating a little less. I also don't waste a lot of time eating senseless calories. I can still sip on a cup of coffee or tea and enjoy the day.

  • C’mon Dr. Gregor, I love all your videos as they are extremely informative but this one isn’t up to the mark and is click baity. The 3500 calorie rule is almost always included with a description of TDEE and how that depends primarily on your body weight. Obviously your TDEE changes as you lose or gain weight and so the calorie deficit is calculated against your current TDEE. However, it should go without saying that maintaining a true 500 calorie deficit isn’t recommended once you are near a healthy weight as you would eventually starve and die. This is not to say that just eating less is better than eating a healthy diet.

  • If the metabolic rate decreases that will also decrease the net calory deficit, unless it is counteracted by more energy expenditure or less intake. So the rule is still correct (within reasonable degrees of accuracy). The people in your examples do not have a constant 500 calory / day deficit otherwise yes they would die eventually. But to keep having a 500 calory deficit while losing a ton of weight they would have to work out more and eat less to compensate and stay at -500cal/day. This whole video is devoid of logic!

  • always knew this, i eat on average 2,500 – 3,000 calories a day and weigh 110lbs at 5'1 and when id reduce my calories by 300-500 per day my weight would drop dramatically, id lose 1 or 2 lbs per day.

  • You willfully misinterpreted the rule, thinking you were proving a point, when all you proved is you don't understand basic concepts.

  • Makes sense! I’ve lost about 100 pounds so far on my diet/exercise journey and honestly was super easy in the beginning and gradually I required less calories and more exercise to get the same results.

  • There is nothing wrong with the 3500 calorie/lb estimate the problem is your math. The 150-pound woman if sedentary needs 150 x 13 cal/lb/day to maintain her weight. 1950 cal/day If she wants to weigh 120 lbs she only needs 120x13cal/day/ib, 1560 cal/day. If she starts eating 1560 cal/day she will create a 390cal/day deficit. 3500/390 equals 8.97 or 9 days to lose the first pound. The next pound will take slightly longer because she now needs only 1937 calories to maintain her weight. If she contiues to eat what a 120 lb. person needs she will lose all her excess weight in 18 months.
    To say cut 500 calories /day means nothing if you don't know how much you are eating.
    There is nothing wrong with the math people simply have no idea how much they are eating, and how much they should eat.

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  • Is there a formula based on your BMI, height and weight to determine the calories needed for a person to maintain or gain weight then? If so, what is it?

  • And this doesn’t even address the fact that weight loss via simply increasing exercise and reducing calories never works in the long-term. Why do they never have Biggest Loser reunion shows?

  • It’s not wrong- 3,500 calorie deficit is still equal to a pound of fat. What this is saying is that you won’t burn 3,500 calories as fast at a lower BMR. Big deal. This is a reach.

  • 3500 kcal per fat is = to 3500 kcal per fat… the metabolic adaptation is something else and I agree that this is a fact… but the other fact is those 3500 cal in 1 lbs per body fat…
    Losing fat is still = to losing 3500 kcal per 1 lbs body fat

  • This video doesnt debunk 1 pound bodyfat being around 3500 calories. 1kg oil doesnt stop being 9000 calories because our metabolic rate changes with weight loss. The title is completely false. 1 pound bodyfat is still around 3500 calories, regardless of how your metabolic rate changes.

  • any good dietitian knows about shifting baselines and any one who has ever cut weight would know. only a nob would think that it was static. I multiply my weight by 11 then go 500 cal under and reweigh and recalculate every two weeks. that's what works for me but everyone is different so your numbers will be slightly different. an old body building friend and myself figured this out years ago when we would cut weight for shows and summer.

  • This doesn't apply to this video subject but the website suggested that I post my question here. This is probably a subject nobody wants to talk about or admit to but here is my question. Are we directly or indirectly responsible for our children's health issues including cancers because of the food we feed them? If so, why don't we use this as a means to get more people on a plant based diet? I know it's cruel to suggest that we are killing our children but I hate to see so many children suffer when it could have been prevented in the first place. Like I said this is a touchy subject but I think it needs to be addressed.

  • that doesn't mean 3500 calorie per pound is wrong. it just means constant rate of calorie burning is wrong, assuming that the body loses or gains mass.

  • This is for people that aren't good at math. Smaller people require fewer calories than larger people for the same activity level. As you become smaller you need to reduce your calories to maintain a deficit. Once you are at the weight you want to be at you need to maintain a lower calorie intake than you did at your old weight or you will just wind up back where you started.

  • I think that to mitigate this, one should simply eat the calories required to maintain their target weight. This should theoretically work with both losing weight, as well as bulking.

  • You haven't provided a single.piece of evidence here. When someone tells you to impliment a 500cal/day deficit to lose a lb a week they are correct, just as you are correct that the new baseline number from which to subtract from will change as body weight decreases. This isn't new. Followed by the fact one study was retracted and presto chango, everything we know is wrong. You offer no alternative. This is an underpants gnome argument. Step 1. Steal underpants. Step 2. ????? Step 3. Profit! Clickbait!!!!!

  • calories in vs calories out is ridiculous because no one can actually track their caloric intake or output without an error of almost 50% due to the fact that nutrition information is just estimates and calories burned depends on SO MANY FACTORS none of which can be accurately tracked unless you are in a laboratory 24/7

  • Have to agree that the title is not accurate, because the 3500 calorie per pound rule refers to 3500 calories above or below your maintenance calories. The rule does not say that maintenance calories are constant – if it did, then it could just be called the 2500 calories per day rule or whatever. Why make people do a calculation if it involves two constants?

  • Many people know that if you limit yourself to sweets or complex carbohydrates (rice, buckwheat, pasta, bread, potatoes), then body weight, as a rule, decreases by a couple of kilograms. In fact, similar restrictions on carbohydrate intake are DIET (low-carb). It works very well because it creates a DEFICIENCY of energy in the body, which is covered by the body's RESERVES (subcutaneous fat). That is why often people lose weight with a decrease in carbohydrates in the diet. Well, what will happen if you FULLY remove carbohydrates from the diet? Will it be even more effective in terms of fat burning? Answer: YES. And such a diet was very popular in the golden era of bodybuilding (it was promoted by Vince Gironde). It is called KETO DIET. shorturl.at/DJNT6 WHY DIET IS CALLED “KETO”?

    Because in the absence of carbohydrates, KETONS (ketone bodies) are produced from FAT as a source of energy for the brain and nervous system.

  • This is so misleading. The amount of calories you need to eat does drop as you lose weight, but the amount is almost unnoticeable.

    At 30lb heavier, I was eating roughly 2050 a day, and now at 30lb lighter, I eat roughly 1950 a day. That's a 100 calorie drop, it's not a lot, and if I wanted to lose weight again, I would set my calories to a certain amount below 1950, not 2050. Heres the thing though, as you lose weight your appetite changes. If you're genetically doing well (no diabetes, thyroid issues, etx), you don't want to eat more than maintenance. I don't miss eating 2050, I feel just as full at 1950. Some days I eat way over, yes, but then my body say woah your full, and I eat less the next day. At the end of the week, I'm back around 1950 calories on average and I'm not hungry when I go to bed.

    He makes it sound so much worse than it is.

  • Isn't the error in this issue not with the 3500 calories, but with the amount we're told is naturally burned without exercise each day? I'm given the number of 2000 calories per day for my body size/shape and it seems that this number is too often seen as a constant for men. All of the issues cited in this video seem to point to the fact that this number needs to change, and not that the 3500 calories is inconstant. If I ate 1500 calories per day and my "natural" burn remained 2000, then the 1 lb. per week would make sense. But if I lost enough that my body only burns, without extra effort, 1500 calories, then there would be no weight loss at all. But that doesn't change the 3500 number.

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